Money and Mental Health with special guest Nev Harris
This episode is for anyone who needs to be reminded they CAN understand their finances. Nev talks about his upcoming course and how they break it down for ANYONE in business can know their numbers. Second, Nev opens up about tackling his own mental health and what he is doing now!
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Transcription
Jennifer
Welcome to a brand new episode of Raney Day Talks Podcast. I’m your host, Jennifer Sakowski, and today the long awaited. Guest, Mr. Nev Harris. Welcome.
Nev Harris
Thank you Jen. Thank you. I love being here. I can almost wave to you.
Jennifer
For the ones catching this on YouTube, they will be able to see that. I am so excited because I’ve been waiting to get you on my podcast. You have such a plethora of information to share with our, our audience. I don’t know where to start other than tell me about yourself. For those that don’t know you and here locally, who are you and what do you do?
Nev Harris
Well, I’m never Ferris and we live about maybe five, 10 minutes from each other. Funny, crazy. So I’m right in Murrysville too. And a group up in this area and I how this all came up well was, we were in a community together and it was a whole bunch of other agency owners and they had struggled with their numbers in, in a way. And I have, I’ve had a finance background so I’ll just start helping them and just to be helpful cause everybody in that community was super helpful. And then they thought that, you know, there was a need to go out there and have the difficult conversations surrounding money. So that’s what we started doing. Well, I want to just go out there and encourage people to have these difficult conversations about money because people normally hide from these conversations around profit and earnings and taxes cause they feel their right brain creative people, you know, maybe they’re mompreneurs, maybe they’re freelancers and they just feel it’s not meant for them. They’re not set out to understand their money. And I disagree with that. I think everybody understand their money. So that’s kind of how we ended up in this spot. I was an agency owner, turned a passionate advocate for understanding your money. I still had the agency for fun.
Jennifer
That, that’s a perfect illustration of it actually. And I love it because a lot of our you’ve mentioned are the group that we met in. It’s true cause I can’t remember how many, like I don’t, can’t remember anybody who said I hate doing or I did not. What am I trying to say? That they liked dealing with their numbers. Most of them was, Oh, I’ll raise my hand because I hate, I don’t know what my numbers are. My numbers are scary. I don’t want to know. And so I think that’s awesome that you’ve turned this into a business. So I’m gonna continue on down that and your personal brand because as you know, I’m working on my own personal brand and I thought, Oh my gosh, Nev is doing it. He’s doing the thing that I want to do. So how do you truly, your tagline is you can understand your money. Boring, not included. I mean can you give us a general, cause our audience are mostly entrepreneurs or small business owners. They got the hustle on the side. How did they set themselves up for success when they’re small and building?
Nev Harris
So that is, so to get from small and building to a more bigger, sustainable company that you dream of and that you can make more impact for your clients, more impact for your employees, more impact for your family. You need to have your hands around your money from the beginning. Because if, if we all had more money, we could all create more impact. And if we all, and there’s two ways to get more money, you can make my money or you can manage the money you have better, so it works harder for you. So, and that’s why it’s so important from the beginning. And I think you, what you need to do is one having accountants. Great. I’m like most people say, Oh, you’re anti account. No, I’m for accountants. I love accountants. I think accounts are brilliant people. But I realize that maybe in the beginning you can’t afford an accountant, so get yourself some bookkeeping software, you know it’s confusing at first and it’s not the best.
Nev Harris
There were, the reports aren’t the best. Cause here’s the problem. The reports are geared for all financial reports and all financial language hasn’t evolved in a hundred, 150 years. So these reports for small business accounting software or the same kind of reports that are business that a fortune 500 company uses. And that’s the problem right there. So the reports are hard to understand. But I could give you some examples of ways that you probably already understand what the reports are saying, but they’re in what I call “accountantese”. So it makes it so difficult to understand. So that’s why I, that’s what I think the first step could be. You know, if you have, if you have a good business accountant, now I’m not talking, I’m a tax preparer or somebody that works primarily with personal account. You need a good business accountant that could, so that’s what I mean by account.
Nev Harris
Yeah. And then, and then when we try to teach people is how do you, how can you, because that account is gonna speak “accountantese” Cause that’s just what they do. You know. there’s, there’s a joke that I heard, it’s an accountant friend had told me, he’s like, how do you tell an introverted account from an extroverted accountant? I don’t know, the, I’m extroverted account and looks at your shoes and said of his shoes when he’s talking to you. So it’s kind of a bad joke, but you get the point that, you know, they just be, you know, there’s not of a difference
between those guys cause they’re all just so, my mission is for you to have a clear conversation with your account once you started talking to her accountant. So if that wasn’t very, you know, managing your money.
Jennifer
So do you have a particular software that you’re like, this is what we typically recommend to our clients or customers to utilize when they’re getting started?
Nev Harris
I would look into zero print books. They are Australian seem to prefer zero. US seems to prefer QuickBooks. Either I think are a necessary evil. I just think it’s understanding and being able to benefit from what those accountant’s software is kicking out to you. Like, here’s the thing, people come to me and say, here’s my profit and loss or income statement. That, that they have. This is, this is what a print out, this is what it is. But if it does and what it says right there is did you make money? Yes or no, which is I think is good to know. You want to know if you made money, but what you really want to know is why did I make money? Am I making less money? Is something is something and if I am making more money, why?
Nev Harris
If I’m making less money, why? So it’s having these reports and even if you have to export these reports into like which is pretty simple, just export into like an Excel document and then you have like you have six months of data, then you could say, okay, my marketing expense all of a sudden jumped way up here and that either caused my profits to be much higher. So now I know what profits are not much higher and I’m like, great, my profits are higher. I expect them to be higher or like next month, you know, okay, wow, I spent more on marketing and my profits went up. Maybe I should look further into that. Honestly, I more how much cleaning and my profits went down that marketing’s not working. So now you’re getting insight and you have a trend or these numbers going up, are they going down?
Nev Harris
Are they flat? You know, so wage expenses. Okay, I hired additional people because everybody’s like, when do I hire? Well, I hired additional people, I’m less profitable. Okay. And so maybe those, maybe those additional people hiring, maybe not. Maybe I need to look into what they’re doing. Then the jobs are working on if they’re, you know, if I’ve costed these jobs where I’d be in the extra labor spends I have or I hired these digital people, my profits jumped 30% maybe there’s room for another person or maybe, you know, maybe I need to switch, you know, or making more money in a certain product and another product. So I think it’s the trends that you need to look at. So you need to get six months worth of numbers and analyze, not just what’s happened that much in that snapshot. Cause the profit and loss is a snapshot of that day, that month. You know, and we all can look at it as a snapshot here. I mean, this isn’t how we look when we get out of bed. Right. When we go on camera.
Jennifer
I don’t know, Hey, I don’t know what you’re talking about Nev. I wake up like this Ha! No you’re right. You’re absolutely right.
Nev Harris
And that’s what I’m saying. So look at it over time, you know, look at us snapshot. Have you ever, you know, you can see, you know, how you changed if you look like 12 months, pictures of you over 12 months, you know. But if you just, it’s always says, where do you look at 12 months where the data, you could see the direction the numbers are taking in the effect that those, that that change has on your bottom line. That I think is a big takeaway that if you’re doing that, you’re gonna have a much more feel of where you are. You won’t be surprised, Oh, I made money this month. Hell yeah. You know, maybe it was one time kind of thing and you should plan on it for next month. Or maybe you should say, okay, I did this, I need more of this. And then you do more of it till it stops making you money, then you’re like, okay, I’m done with it. I don’t want to exponentially scale my Facebook. And it’s cause as we all know, Facebook guys don’t exponentially scale. So so then you, and then you really have a feel for how all this and how all the pieces play together too. So
Jennifer
Yeah, that’s definitely a different take because like you, when I’m working with certain accountants, they’re only looking at my profit and loss. They’re looking at my budget and to seeing month over month and that doesn’t tell us. That doesn’t tell me a lot. Yeah, I did. I am I out of the, if I’m in the red, or in the black, that’s pretty much is what they’re looking at. So when you start breaking it down like that, I can definitely see the impact of being able to make decisions also on how to move forward or how to grow based upon the trends of where I’m spending or what I’ve cut back.
Nev Harris
Yeah, exactly. It’s a, you’ve nailed it probably a lot more succinctly, than I nailed it, you’ve done well!
Jennifer
HA! I graduated? Can I have the course badge?
Jennifer
And that brings me to the next, like you are rocking out of course for this, that’s coming soon. Tell me, so not only you’re doing the coaching with individuals and helping them understand their numbers better, but how does the course play in it and what is the course?
Nev Harris
Okay, so we have a course that’s based on helping our target market, which is agencies, freelancers, you know, the creative professional understand their money. All right? And we do this by one. We have one module that does it. That was like a sample of the whole module we have where we actually take take these complex terms and we break them down into like simple terms, like everyday terms at the, that should have evolved like 50, 60, 70 years ago when entrepreneurial culture evolved. It should be like the way we talk about money should evolve, but it didn’t regretfully. So and that whole section pretty much breaks down into stuff like, so, you know, sales minus expenses equals profit. Common sense, right? You know, “accountantnese”, what you’d see on a financial statement is gross revenues minus costs of goods sold minus operating expenses plus income from continue operations minus non recurring events equals net profit.
Nev Harris
That long ass string string of words that makes zero sense. You know, all it says is sales minus expenses equals profits. Why not just say that? No, because it’s crazy. Cause most of our businesses, we don’t have a huge cost of goods sold. You know, we don’t need that. We don’t even need that as a need to confuse ourselves with the word costs of goods sold. And then operating expenses. Why don’t we just say expenses? You know, cause we don’t have all these varied expenses and gross revenue. It’s sales. Net profit is just profit for crying out loud cause we’re not doing all sorts of crazy calculations on, on 10 levels of profit. It’s not important for the type of businesses we have now. If you are manufacturing company or something along those lines, you know. Yeah. Maybe you need all of those kinds of complex languages and everything like that because you have a $50 million.
Jennifer
Yeah, it’s a lot more involved.
Nev Harris
Your plant property, equipment, you have inventory, you have you have all sorts of Mortgages and leases and, and, and loans and all that kind of crap that, you know, we don’t have. So why, why are we trying to take our a square peg in jamming into their round hole, you know, and, but that’s what every account will do. And that’s what, and you know, that’s what we do. Then we come up with all sorts of confusing hacks to help us get around it, which are great. I love the hacks, but they don’t, but you know, you’re not learning anything from it. It’s helping you bridge a gap, but you’re not learning how to, I always say in a website world, it’s like a plugin. You could use a plug in all day. We use plugins all day in our business, because we’re not big on coding, but if you’ll, but you’ll learn a little bit of CSS.
Nev Harris
You learn a little bit of code, you don’t need nearly as many plugins because you understand fundamentally and then you could go off and create 20 different things instead of buying 20 different plugins. So I want to teach a little bit of knowledge so that you can apply it in all a lot of different ways. That’s good. So and then we teach a decision making framework cause you touched on that like that you know it helps you that you could see this helps you make better decisions or we’ve all sorts of templates and forms to fill out that you can make decisions. Should I hire this person, should I buy this product should I, should I start this new product line and helps you evaluate all your different decisions. So you’re making better decisions with your money. All this coming together, you know, to allow you to be more effective with your money.
Nev Harris
So it’s an easy, and that’s what I challenge people. Like with just that example I gave you, what sales minus expenses, equal profit. I can’t understand my money. It’s not meant for me. I’m not that kind of person. Where you understand more than you do. You just never had it explained clearly to you.
Jennifer
That was my next question is how do you break down that fear of understanding your understanding of financials? When someone says, I’m not a financial person or I don’t understand my numbers, my numbers scare me. How, how do you respond to that? How do you break down that wall?
Nev Harris
Well that is the, the $64,000 question. Seriously. I know it’s hard. I mean, because we have this ingrained belief, so we are, so here’s, here’s what we did. We went in the Facebook communities and we belong to a million Facebook communities that we would get a ton of help from and we really appreciate it.
Nev Harris
So we went in there with the mentality, we’re going to go in there and just help people as much as we can with their numbers. And that was on vitality for the last six months. Just to be really helpful because that’s one of our core values is just an overall company and people we couldn’t find people talking about money and these Facebook groups. It was just, they didn’t, they, they weren’t, they just won’t bring this up. So we created a Facebook group that, you know, that is hoping that a hope will support and where we give all sorts of free training away that we hope will help start a movement and help create a conversation around this. Because I know, I know at the core of me that you can understand your money, but that mindset about it is one of the is one of the, one of the biggest problems is one of, if we created obstacles to people becoming a client of ours, it’s not that they don’t realize they have the problem that we solve.
Nev Harris
It’s, they don’t believe that the problem could be solved for them. And with all the marketing, the broader and everything in the world, we could do, we can’t, you know, solve that. We can’t go in there and rewire people’s brains. So, and then, so I’m going on podcasts like this. I’m just trying to get out there and evangelize the message. Hey, look like buyer course. Talk to your accountant, talk to your brother-in-law, read a book, get a hack, do whatever you can, but you can understand your money and do it somehow because it will make an impact. And that’s the message I want to go out there. And if you do too, our course, our whole first section that we like is on mindset. We have a whole module I just mindset that we say if you do this course, you could do this course and find out some stuff and learn and all that stuff.
Nev Harris
But if you don’t do this mindset module first, it’s going to be far less effective. And so that’s how we tried to combat that in the course. But like in, if you don’t get into the course, we do a lot of that free mindset training in the group. But if you don’t, but if you don’t engage in those ways, we can’t. So yeah. So I didn’t have the answer to that question, but that’s the kind of stuff I’m trying. If anybody out there in the podcast really knows or has ideas, please call me.
Jennifer
Well let’s talk about that. Cause I’ll be adding your course link, your website, and then the Facebook group to our show notes because I do think it’s important. I’m in your Facebook group and I love it. I love seeing you and Mary Beth pop up all the time. But the information that you’re giving away is it’s actionable. Like I can take it and I can make sense of it and I can use it. And I think that’s very important because most of them accountants or financial people that you talk to, they tend to be up above your head or they talk straight to the numbers in the reports, but not how I can apply it. So your Facebook group think tank for agency owners and freelancers. And is it an open group?
Nev Harris
Well, it’s a closed group because in one of the reasons it is a closed group is we’re very I don’t want to say we’re very selective, but we’re very protective of our membership and we want to be able to give people the boot. If you’re not supportive, if you’re not friendly, if you’re not a nice person, you’re not in our group. So if you’re a jerk and you want to put people down, stay away. Cause we, we’re, we’re, we’re, we’re passionate about grading us. We’re passionate about creating as fun. It’s not all about finances, a fun place where you would go to, cause I’ve we pay a lot of money to be in a mastermind that we have a very supportive community around. It is how we became such good friends. And so I wanted to create maybe that kind of environment for, for people who have these kind of business. Cause let’s face it, you know, having a business, it’s lonely, you know, and if you don’t have people around to give you that Pat on the back to pick you up when you’re down to pick you up, when you know, to help you celebrate when something really good happens and you look around and there’s nobody there for you, you know, hell, who am I talking to?
Nev Harris
Like you guys, I just, you know, I had a $15,000 sale or yeah, really completed this project and I’m so proud of it, you know, go in there, share that man to the people in the community. You will be like, I mean, we’ll feed off that, you know, how go I be having a crappy day and you’ll be like picking them up. So yeah, no, to come with a problem. Like, man, I’m really struggling with this. I don’t feel like I, you know, I have this customer, they’re giving me problems, I’ve done everything I can w how do I do? And then we know where we never have those kinds of problems. Right. All our customers are great. But you know and so it’s a place for support there. And then we do the finance training and it’s kind of, so it’s, it’s a safe place to talk about numbers, but it’s also a fun place to celebrate and get help and you know, get inspired. So, and it’s a few, it’s Nev. Harris.Com/Facebook group is an easy way to find it because that, that name for that Facebook community, I can’t even spell that. You don’t have to, I have a linked. Okay. So I have to
Jennifer
Cause I’m so proud of you for launching your brand and since the time that we’ve talked and figuring out your niche and where to go, you just blow me away of how far you’ve come and how much you’ve evolved. Okay. I want to talk about that because for me, and there’s others that I know that are listing that are venturing out to launch their own personal brand. Shoot, let’s like, let’s really dive into that. So what made you decide that this needed to be from you?
Nev Harris
Well, I don’t have a very odd you’d be like, Oh, I’m just so smart that I can help with his now won’t, why not? It was just, it was up one morning and creating no, no. I know, you know what I was doing and because personal branding is so much different than like branding vertical. And I have a friend net a was helping me out when I was struggling with a couple of things and that is growing it, personal branding. And she, she, she really helped out with a personal brand, help creating her flourish online. She was she was phenomenal and it really, really brought me to life with around the idea that money is a boring topic. Money is a scary topic. And you know, I approach it with such fun and such kind of, you can say goofiness, you know and but you know, it’s really actionable because I really believe what you said there, you know I love the learn and I’d his girlfriend challenge with money.
Nev Harris
She says, you’re always learning, but what are you? And so I was like, okay, well if I’m going to spend three hours doing the course, five hours reading abroad, you know, there has to be a takeaway that we’re going to put in, you know, and I’ve just wasted time, or I’m just the smartest hermit crab. So, and nobody wants to be that. So yeah. So it’s just, it’s just, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s putting action behind it. So, and, and then having, so the personal brand, it’s, it’s a really cool kind of thing when it’s pulled off. Right. Because it, it makes you, it opens the door to you that people get to know you. Oh, a little bit more. So it’s just, yeah, I think it’s, I think it’s a cool way to go about it. So I’m not the personal writing genius, but trust me, I’m on boxer all the time. Melissa helped me. Tell me,
Jennifer
Could you have come this far or would it been this w I don’t want to say we’ll package, but because it is so well packaged, but if you would have done it yourself then to have someone who is an expert in personal branding because sometimes I believe we get so focused on, well we’re gonna do it ourselves. We’re really shouldn’t do it yourself. And that’s something even before we hit record, you challenged me with my own personal brand that, you know, you point blank asked, are you going to do it yourself? And I’m like, yeah, I’m gonna do it myself. But after talking to you, I don’t think that’s the right decision. So do you think that it significantly like you staying in your lane and hiring someone to come in and be the professional, how that talked about how that made an impact on your launch?
Nev Harris
Everything was, so we, so about switching subjects. We have an agency. I’ve been an agency owner or for we’ve had a marketing company for seven years. Okay. I have a absolutely phenomenal graphic designer. I think you know, got some skills when it comes to branding. And so it’s not, was it wasn’t lack of knowledge or resources in marketing and ah, but it was lack of really understanding how to pull out the essence of a person in their personal brand. And trust me, I haven’t had a good friend and Alyssa and I happen to be, you know, a person that likes a spirited conversation. So and so I’m going back and forth with her challenging her on some of these ideas. Like, no, that’s not all traditional branding works. And she’s like, and she’s gone of my friend, listen, she’s kind of like, you know she’s not the loudest person.
Nev Harris
She’s not the most forceful person, but she’s like, I will completely disagree with that and you are wrong. And then she was right. I was wrong. I was completely wrong. And so it’s like, I, the answer your question. Yes. I think you should have somebody even, I mean, like I said, I have a team of designers and on a, I a lot of stuff on a lot of when it comes to marketing and everything like that, but yeah, everything. So what she gave us was like a brand board with all the elements we needed. And so I give it to my designers and they come up with this phenomenal stuff. But if it’s like, it’s like you are a great co like, you know, you’re given all the recipes, you know from, and even from a really master chef, you know, that really crafted this stuff.
Nev Harris
So you’re making all of this fantastic food, but you know, you were taught exactly how to make, you know. So yeah, it’s like having all the, all the things in place. It’s like when you buy the Lego set and they give you all the Lego’s, a little diagram how to make it, and you make this phenomenal Lego thing. You didn’t make it from like the $124, 124 piece random set. You made it from the 16 feet set that has specific instructions. Hey, you’re talking to the queen of Google when my son’s like make a dinosaur into Legos and Thompson, you’re Googling like how to make it from Lego set out to lego.com for having those, those illustrations on how to fit together. But yes, I completely agree. So when you launched your personal brand, did you have any reservations because you’re putting you out there, not the business you. So this is gonna sound maybe me. I don’t, I don’t mean to come off as arrogant when I sound this, but absolutely not because now here’s the reason because Okay.
Nev Harris
Everything was so, and so, Alyssa actually did my website for the stores where we designed really amazing websites. Alyssa did my website and then gave me a template for the Salesforce. But anyways, so I looked at it and I said,Okay,
Nev Harris
Holy hell, this is, this is me. This is beautiful. This is perfect. This, this is, this is, this is great. You know? And yeah, so I didn’t, so when it went, when we went out there, I was, I trusted her because she knew so much and I absolutely love the way she did. Here’s the funny things. And we’re going to change something stuff around because we have all sorts of new photos, but she took photos. I had a photo shoot done and this is an, I’ll tell you something about photographers. I had a photo shoot done, a professional photo shoot by a professional photographer and, and I gave her the, in those couple years ago and I gave her other pictures and she, she’s like, we’re, we’re not using any of these. These all suck. Yeah. These all look like, you know, your about shots or something, you know, not even here from shots, but you know, what is it like to professional, to, to, to clean to, and there was no personality, you know.
Nev Harris
So she was my friend and so Santa Monica, we were all in San and wanted to it together. And a lot of those pictures come from just as a joking around in Santa Monica. So there’s a picture of me doing your hands in the Chinese district because, you know, I always like move around and like do my crazy poses in front of stuff cause I’m weird. Yeah. So it’s just, it’s all about if, if, if it’s, if it encompasses all the, well I guess, I guess I didn’t because let me re re answer that and if I’m rambling you just let me know. But cause when I, I never had to think about this question, but I had talked about it so much in maybe like a debated, the point was so much about her with her about this stuff that she had me so convinced that you have to put yourself out there as you.
Nev Harris
And I think that can be a struggle for a lot of people. And I think it would have been a struggle for me if I hadn’t really talked to her about it. And gone through all the exercises and then seeing what it came out within and thought, wow, this really doesn’t compass me. And you know, and if I didn’t have such a passionate, if I wasn’t so passionate about my why wasn’t so passionate about how I really want to get out there and just change the conversation people are having, cause I don’t know the answer to that question you asked me before. How do you ever calm people’s fear of it and thinking it’s not for them? I don’t know. But that’s what I’m sure is, I’m trying to figure out that’s what I’m starting to start our conversation about. So at least I can be that little spark that maybe starts people, you know, on a much broader conversation about the topic. Even if it never comes back to them. Take it more force. My course is just like, I’m not some guy out there saying, Hey, you know, you can do this, but I’m not going to tell you how, you know, how is that helping anybody? So I’m trying to start a conversation and then if you want to fulfill sort of down the road course, great. If not, go find somewhere else because it’s something you need. And so anyways,
Jennifer
That’s good because as we were talking, I’m walking down that same path and, and I’ve been holding back for quite some time and I’m like, I’m just ready. I know I’m, I’m ready. I’m already outside my comfort zone. I’m ready to leap even further. But I want to be able to show up online with, for lack of better term, my best face forward. Right? Like I want to be able to stand behind my brand and it to be me. So I love that the conversations that we’re having because that speaks to me and hopefully others that are listening, how important it is to know your why and what you’re passionate about and then not be afraid to ask for help or seek outside of your own self to bring it, to bring it to fruition. Right. Cause sometimes I think that we limit ourselves. So, and I know that I do that on my own projects that are personally for me. And it’s not until I bring it to my mastermind friends or whatnot to get a different perspective that it’s like, Oh okay, well this is, I am on target or maybe I shouldn’t go that route. So I think that that’s super encouraging
Jennifer
For me. Before we wrap up, I have one more point that I want to bring to the table and ask you a quick question before that. No, I hire you to like paraphrase my long winded statement shit. And for you to just sum it up really succinctly because that was, yeah, exactly. Be, but no, but yes,
Nev Harris
I think I just want to say one thing about what you said there. It’s not about putting, cause I want to contrast to one thing you said to me before we started the podcast that you just said there. It’s not about putting your best foot forward, it’s about putting your most authentic foot forward. And is like what you said that this podcast is, I just dropped my pen because, yeah. Right. So cause that might be really expensive. I want to drop that there. That’s why it’s on a Stanton. So I don’t touch it. You’re not Kanye. You can’t afford a hundred. We don’t drop the much.
Nev Harris
I think it’s about, I think it’s about, you know, putting yourself out there and I think is about having a stronger, I think your why needs to be stronger than your fear of putting yourself out there. That’s good. All right. Moving on. That’s good. That’s good.
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A huge thank you to Mark Levander of Mark Levander Productions for sponsoring season one of Raney Day Talks. It truly is because of Mark that we’re able to put these podcasts in our YouTube channel and a lot of our videos and load the animations together. So, if you’re interested in launching your own podcast or need work with photography or videography, please contact Mark through MarkLavanderProductions.com.